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General Discussion / The Police.
« on: December 09, 2018, 06:57:16 AM »
When police produce documents referring to themselves they use phrases such as "Police is engaged in or Police is looking at."
One does not say "cattle is walking up the road, neither does one say "sheep is dumb animals."
Police is a collective noun just like sheep and cattle so why do the police not use the word Police correctly as a collective noun.

General Discussion / Re: shooting sparrows.
« on: December 08, 2018, 08:13:26 AM »
Nothing in the Dompost this morning about sparrows so the news article appears to be just a radio station attempt to sensationalise something. Some of the radio commentators will yap about anything.

General Discussion / shooting sparrows.
« on: December 07, 2018, 06:07:34 PM »
News in Wellington about shooting sparrows in Pack n Save in Kilburnie.
Lot of talk and pr nonsense but the sparrows have to be dealt with.
someone was talking about aneasthetising sparrows and releasing them. Sounds like a lot of rot to me.
Someone said they poison them.  What -- using poison in a supermarket full of food.
Probably the most humain and effective way is to shoot them but the animal grievers won't like that.

General Airgun Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: December 03, 2018, 09:13:19 AM »
Nice pistol, the Webley Senior. Compact with a bit if a kick but fun to shoot.
I have never seen the latest model for sale here, the Webley Tempest. There is no way I would get a permit to import one. Just because I would like one would not constitute a special reason.
The Webley Typhoon is quite good but big and not a Webley. It's a Hatsan.
Welcome to the forum.

Modifications / Re: Trying to fix a leak
« on: November 30, 2018, 06:39:47 PM »

i know nothing about pcps but those cracks look to me as if polishing will never get them out and they will never get better.
High pressure air can be dangerous.
My ill informed opinion says discard and buy a new part. And soon.

General Airgun Discussion / Re: Importing airguns
« on: November 30, 2018, 09:06:44 AM »
I would like to know what the lie is that the Police are perpetrating. I don't agree with how they have gone about the form of airgun control they have implemented and they could have done it better as far as I can see.
I don't see them lying but maybe they are acting unilaterally. But they do not make the law. Changes to the law will be made by parliament with recommendation from the Police. I do not see how it can be made differently. Whether we like it or not and despite the flaws and discontent it is the best system we have at present.

Just remember the Aussies banned and collected all MSSA rifles without compensation.

Times have changed and manufacturers have taken advantage by producing things that sell.
You will recall in the days of our youth that cap guns and water pistols were available but not in many different styles. They looked like or some of them looked pretty much like real pistols but you could tell the difference  because of colour or something that said out loud that it was a toy.

Now there are available handguns and rifle styles whether they be airguns or airsoft or plain replicas that look exactly like real serious powder burning guns. Look at the Gamo BB guns plus any number of others.

The law made a special category for replica firearms because these lifelike lookalikes were or could be used for armed hold ups.

Police need to protect their own not only from the bullet of the bady. And when people who can shoot clash it is the one who gets the bullet away first that wins. The Police need to protect the ordinary constable with wife and child who is contronted by an armed villain and the constable shoots first and kills a youth who is holding a plastic lookalike. Put yourself in the constables position and how he or she feels for the rest of the life.
Every day of that life.

It goes further than that, much further, when it comes to the justifiable use of force to protect and prevent further harm. That is a ham fisted way of talking about it but it is spelt out in the Crimes Act.

I was on a farm not too long ago and there in the arms cabinet was a Tika .308 semi automatic. Five shot mag or maybe seven. Also sitting in the safe was a plastic mag loaded with 30 rounds.  What for!!!.

I have no objection to licencing of firearms or collectors or museum curators licences.
I even favour airgun licencing and that could be done as a self licencing regime that does not require great expense and wobbly  administration such as the firearms licencing system.

Enough waffle. We just have to hope that the law makers helped by the Police get changes to the Arms Act right. That doesn't mean that we will like it.

General Airgun Discussion / Re: precharged hunting pistols
« on: November 29, 2018, 09:36:32 AM »

Modifications / Re: Spring Rifles
« on: November 28, 2018, 06:39:29 PM »
Dead right FPE, energy is better than fps, velocity.
800fps in .22 sounds not too bad. If it was my rifle I would do what Axle says when he is not being a lawyer and spend your time on the trigger. A bad trigger will never shoot nicely. Not sure what sort of tirgger the Norica has  but increased power increases recoil and that is not good for accuracy.
PS if you have only just started shooting springers then you need to spend time learning the artillary hold and trajectory.
Lots to learn but the good part is that is fun even though it takes time.

PS. Honing the bore could be a bit beyond you, maybe not but it shouldn't be too bad from the factory.
Lots of practice, lots and lots and lots but make sure you are not practicing mistakes.

There is lots of stuff on this forum to help you and lots on Youtube but beware that youtube has a lot of nonsense.

General Discussion / Re: Cell phone pictures and videos.
« on: November 28, 2018, 01:47:27 PM »
Samsung Iphone. I thought they are all iphones, except mine.
Remember the days when you cranked the handle and the operator said
"Number please"
"Hello Mavis, can't remember the number but can you get me Jock Casey?"
"Through now"

If she wasn't busy she might say, "See you at the footy on Saturday." 

General Discussion / Re: Cell phone pictures and videos.
« on: November 27, 2018, 07:19:30 PM »
Thank you Mintie. Sounds like it is off my wish list.
Following the pellet was one thought but the other was capturing the rifle movement on firing. Say suspended from two cords with an almost non contact trigger devise.

General Discussion / Cell phone pictures and videos.
« on: November 27, 2018, 05:21:00 PM »
Can anyone tell me if there is an app that goes on a Samsung iphone where you can video an airgun shooting and play it back very much slowed down.
Has to be simple to operate and not cost as much as the repaint of Buckingham Palace.

General Airgun Discussion / Re: precharged hunting pistols
« on: November 27, 2018, 10:15:23 AM »
Not starting a war of words. Just that the dictionary definitions interest me probably as much as the pistol itself and how precisely the definitions should be applied. That has never been tested as far as I know.
A couple of spring Webleys satisfies me for a plink.
Maybe the crux to the production of a pcp pistol is the cost of production.   
The other thing that goes through my mind is that if high powered pcp pistols become available through retail outlets then the gangs will get them, whatever the controls that may be applied. That could be part of the reason why new air pistols are now scarce. Gangs with high powered pcp pistols will not be a good development.
Whether or not they are prepared for the high pressure air recharging gear and procedures, who knows.

General Airgun Discussion / Re: precharged hunting pistols
« on: November 25, 2018, 09:12:55 PM »
Don't get me wound up. We live in a country where everything is grossly over priced because the importers can get away with it. Have a look at the prices Bunnings charge for fastenings and then go to Mohia St and buy them for half the price. Bunnings guarantee they will beat any other supplier by 15% for the identical product but have a look at their bolts. They are odd sizes and very often varnished. Not the same.
Same with other products, all advertising bunkum.

General Discussion / Re: Trade Me Seller Konus
« on: November 25, 2018, 09:06:52 PM »
 Discovery scope. Full review would be good. Been pondering a new scope but haven't got serious about it.

General Airgun Discussion / Re: precharged hunting pistols
« on: November 25, 2018, 09:01:39 PM »
Of the pcp pistols I have seen the difference is that the pistol has a short barrel and lesser vleocity because of that and no butt stock. No licence required. Add a butt stock and you then have gun that is not designed to be held and fired in one hand. Not a pistol and therefore you need a licence. Same gun but with my handcrafted butt.
Now if I recall correctly a Ranchero is classed as a pistol but it has a forestock but no butt stock. Does the forestock mean that it is designed to be held and fired holding the pistol grip and the forestock. If so that is not a pistol. A pistol is a gun designed to be held and fired in one hand.
Real pistols such as the new pcp revolver does not have a forestock, a Glock does not have a forestock. And there are plenty of others. My Webley Typhoon has a pistol grip and a forestock but it is a springer and it a mini rifle and it can be because no licence required. You could never say it was small and handy.
The law is an ass, it just is and does not care.

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