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Hunting / Re: The last kill with 45cal cattle slayer
« on: February 21, 2019, 09:17:17 PM »
So the pistol has a good kick to it but manageable.

The dissertation on projectiles was interesting. Not many of us will ever shoot round ball or even very high velocity bullets. I see there are trade offs all the time as to how they do their job and what you want the job to be.

Very high velocity rifle shots must cost a lot per cartridge compared to say something like a 30-30 or even a 308. 308 is very common so probably cheap. 30-30 not so common so not so cheap. Then there is the barrel. Lot of very hot gas and very fast copper scouring out the bore of a high velocity rifle. Whereas a .22 LR or a smooth bore round ball would probably go for ever.

Then there is the overall cost. $22,00 for 500 pellets can't be beaten.  A springer is quiet and you can shoot it in the back yard in town if you observe all the precautions. Good for plinking and the occsssional rabbit if you get the opportunity.

Hooray for Hatsan. ( Even better with a Weihrauch.) 

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Hunting / Re: The last kill with 45cal cattle slayer
« on: February 20, 2019, 09:57:14 AM »
Thank you for that information.

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Hunting / Re: The last kill with 45cal cattle slayer
« on: February 18, 2019, 12:01:54 AM »
So there you have it, Hidayat.

I will never belong to that exclusive club but I have two questions.

1. Does  shooting of round ball from either air pistol  or powder pistol or from round ball rifle give a consistant trajectory if the wind is not a factor.

2. What is the recoil like on a big calibre air pistol, 180gn ball. PCP of course.

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Modifications / Re: Mini Carbine.
« on: February 17, 2019, 11:50:33 PM »
The little gun now has another stock. The latest one is thicker, being two scaps of plywood glued together to give 25 mms of thickness. The other dimensions are similar but the cheek riser is 30 mms higher to give a better cheek weld. The accuracy is still the same but the point of impact is lower.
The stock looked too bulky, plank like, so I made a cut out in the centre a bit like the Crosman Ratcatcher.
Accuracy remains consistent but the point of impact has changed again.
Adjustment of the scope will bring the zero to spot on.
Still a dinky little fun shooter.

It is late in the day now. Guess what I have been doing.

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Hunting / Re: The last kill with 45cal cattle slayer
« on: February 12, 2019, 03:47:54 AM »
Well you got the whole picture Hidayat.
On the other side of the fence a stock on a pistol is an aid to accuracy and a fun novelty way of shooting.
The shoulder stock can be made so that is is easy to take off so you can use the pistol with or without.

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For Sale, Wanted, Spotted / Re: WTB: CNC machinists skills
« on: February 11, 2019, 06:57:53 AM »
You have already had the best advice. Get some files and a drill is useful. It is not hard to do but takes a bit of time and care. Careful marking out and careful cutting and finishing. The exercise is very satisfying. Sand paper is useful for finishing as aluminium is soft.
It is also cheap so if you mess up the first one then you can start again.
The guarantee is that every time you pick up the rifle you will  get a little happy message, I made that.  You only get it if you made it.

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Hunting / Re: The last kill with 45cal cattle slayer
« on: February 09, 2019, 08:50:24 PM »
Ok Hidayat. Why the last kill? Are you selling it or putting it away?

i take it you mean there will be no more kills and not that this was the latest kill.

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Modifications / Re: Mini Carbine.
« on: February 09, 2019, 08:11:22 AM »
This little mini gun is satisfyingly accurate at 12 matres. It probably will reach out further than that but it is not powerful. Something around 400- 450 fps. It is not very pellet picky but AirArms 8.44 are the best. It is however extraordinarily hold sensitive. A change in the forehand makes a difference in the point of impact and consistency.
The best forehand grip is having the hand holding the trigger hand just like a two handed pistol hold and the stock gently shouldered but not loose.
I suppose that make sense because it is really a pistol.
 

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General Airgun Discussion / Re: Alloy pellets? waste of time?
« on: February 09, 2019, 08:01:04 AM »
Never tried alloy pellets but logic: the combination of weight - frontal area - drag at muzzle velocity doesn't add up to a pellet that will carry its way very far. What is the point in that sort of shooting?

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General Airgun Discussion / Re: DIY dry pac for hand pump
« on: February 07, 2019, 08:58:31 PM »
Pauly, the fumes will die away but it takes a long time. They use glued joins in waste water and down pipes and the glue for pvc pipes is pretty volatile. The glue burns. Joins in water supply pipes are crimped so that says something.  All those volatile fumes burn so there is your answer. Compressed to 3 or 4000 psi could make them something nasty.

What about superglue. That cures pretty quickly and the fumes although very nasty go quickly and you use so little of it.

I know it is good to make something yourself and beat the profiteers but for $60.00 ?
 

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General Discussion / Re: Police shooting at car.
« on: February 05, 2019, 12:56:01 PM »
Can't follow the logic.
I think that what happened was probably legally justifiable. At least there is an arguement to say there was that justification.
The practical arguement regarding the danger is another matter that can only really be answered by those involved and they will not enter into public debate and neither should they.
 

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Modifications / Re: Mini Carbine.
« on: February 04, 2019, 05:22:41 PM »
The little gun is shooting pretty well. One hole groups at 12 metres if I don't mess up. That is not too bad for a cheap $150.00 springer pistol.  Much better with the stock than without. That is just the steadyness of it.
The Tasco scope is a gem. Very clear sight picture. Makes my centre point , no capitals, really look like the junk that it is. The gun doesn't look very deadly because the stock is made of treated Radiata with a couple of coats of clear water based varnish. Dries very quickly. The good bits are that the modification cost absoluetly nothing and it shoots well and is a fun novelty gun.

I wonder if I will get around to making another stock just to make it a bit jazzier.

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Modifications / Mini Carbine.
« on: February 03, 2019, 06:41:27 AM »
 The sun was too hot and harsh to play outside so I ended up in the workshop mucking about.
The result was a plywood stock added to my Webley Typhoon pistol. Quite a big pistol. Now it is 630 mms long with a 160 barrel.
Works pretty well with open sights but had to try a scope.
I have an old Tasco 2- 7 x 20. It is 7/8 inch diameter so had to make up spacers for it to fit 25 mm rings.
Still getting that sorted out because the pistol has quite a bit of barrel droop. Even then the scope might be no good but time tutuing will tell.  Just a bit of fun. Pity about the photo, still haven't mastered that.

There are some rabbits, about 5, on the side of the road to the park. I pull up and they just sit there and look at me about 12 yards away.  Well you get the idea but no. Public road, shooting from a car. Maybe another car comes along. Not going to shoot there so I will just have to be conent with looking.

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General Discussion / Re: Police shooting at car.
« on: February 02, 2019, 08:24:51 AM »
I looked at the video and it seems real enough. I did see another photo of the red car stopped on a grass area. Was it a shot fired from a pursuing vehicle? Shooting at a moving vehicle from a moving vehicle by a passenger using his off hand out the window doesn't seem likely. Most people are right handed. Maybe a policeman was waiting on the side of the road and shot the car as it went past. That would explain the opportune video. Still risky shooting in a busy area. Looks like a shot burst a tyre but more than one shot was fired. Did all shots hit the car?

Was the risk of shooting justifiable? Maybe. Only those involved can answer that. Maybe the one that shot the tyre is the only one who will ever really know.  Maybe he knew his capabilities very well.
He must have received information from someone in the pursuit team to know where to be at the right time.   
It was reported that the fleeing car was driving very dangerously and had been involved in some sort of shooting.

The incident will be reviewed in slow motion bit by bit and the policeman who did what he thought best will be hanging on tenderhooks for a long time.

All because of some fool probably drug crazed but smart enough to discard the gun he had.

PS. The final result was good. People should be thankful for that.

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General Discussion / Police shooting at car.
« on: February 01, 2019, 12:45:09 PM »
Article in the Dompost.
"Police fired at car after it driver led officers on high speed rampage across Auckland.  --------
Police fired more than one shot at the vehicle due to the serious  risk posed by the alleged offender.

The article alludes to shooting at a moving vehicle but is not clear on that point. Shody reporting. If the vehicle was not moving why were shots necessary.

Just a bit concerning that Police were shooting and what with, a Glock or a Bushmaster.  At a veicle that presumably was travelling on or stopped in a populated street or road. Questions to be answered on this one Mr Bush. 

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